tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post9170217084833312798..comments2023-08-08T04:19:26.974-07:00Comments on THE CALLADUS BLOG: Silencing ChristiansCalladushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-65988885879289537882009-03-14T20:07:00.000-07:002009-03-14T20:07:00.000-07:00The entire bible is a "matter of interpretation". ...The entire bible is a "matter of interpretation". That's why there are Christian sects, many of which condemn each other.<BR/><BR/>Many sects use the bible as proof that homosexuality is wrong, and they are adamant that the sects who do not believe as they do are incorrect.<BR/><BR/>I think I would not be incorrect in saying that the prevailing Christian interpretation of the bible is that it condemns homosexuality in both men and women.Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-27620646935574985242009-03-14T18:01:00.000-07:002009-03-14T18:01:00.000-07:00The mention of female sexual 'perversion' does not...The mention of female sexual 'perversion' does not necessarily mean homosexuality, but it might. So I'll leave that for now.<BR/><BR/>However, like I said, it is a matter of interpretation. Remember that male sexuality has always had a violent character to it, and its history has been filled with the treatment of the objects of sexual desire (usually women) as chattel, and as legitimate receivers of rape and brutality. <BR/><BR/>When women receive that treatment (which is all the time, and this was even more true in those days than it is now) it doesn't get its own story in the Bible because nobody cared at that time; they barely care now. But when men do, they must be protected from the inhumanity of being 'treated as women'. What appears like a condemnation of homosexuality is in fact a protection of men from the perversions of other, often more powerful men.<BR/><BR/>Also, non-procreative sex of any sort is hedonistic, and Christianity has generally had an anti-hedonistic tone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-15897770891516060042009-03-10T20:08:00.000-07:002009-03-10T20:08:00.000-07:00Read Romans 1:18-32. Make sure to read the transl...Read Romans 1:18-32. Make sure to read the translator's notes too. I use the NET bible and translator's notes.<BR/><BR/>Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/b99vnvCalladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-84225511573382551412009-03-10T19:54:00.000-07:002009-03-10T19:54:00.000-07:00I'm not sure I agree that the Bible condemns homos...I'm not sure I agree that the Bible condemns homosexuality as a sin. The Bible condemns male attraction to other men, which is not identical to homosexuality. That is, homosexuality includes lesbianism which the Bible does not condemn or even mention (perhaps it's misogyny that 'homosexuality' and 'male homosexuality' are used interchangeably). <BR/><BR/>The idea of a distinct homosexual lifestyle and identity (as opposed to, say, spontaneous homosexual behaviour, homosexual desire without the behaviour, or romantic love between members of the same sex that is not overtly sexual) is a recent phenomenon in only some cultures, that we shouldn't project onto the Bible.<BR/><BR/>But most importantly, male sexuality and homosexual behaviour had a different significance at that time. It was not egalitarian but often involved the assertion of dominance through rape; and pederasty was common.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-1349827805974840442009-02-26T13:49:00.000-08:002009-02-26T13:49:00.000-08:00Anonymous - I don't advocate violence. I would al...Anonymous - I don't advocate violence. I would also suggest that you read my blog's Comment Moderation Policy.Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-51707706784222694752009-02-26T11:42:00.000-08:002009-02-26T11:42:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-73955107096174990902009-02-26T00:21:00.000-08:002009-02-26T00:21:00.000-08:00I just watched that television special (with much ...I just watched that television special (with much eye-rolling and retching, might I add) a week or two ago. And seeing the questionnaire on your blog inspired me to answer it on my own. Good thoughts!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-85860765961787452742009-02-17T22:09:00.000-08:002009-02-17T22:09:00.000-08:00I had to do the egg thing too!! It was in junior h...I had to do the egg thing too!! It was in junior high. I was responsible for 50% of the grade. My "husband" was responsible for the other 50%..<BR/><BR/>Ready for it? <BR/><BR/>My "husband" was my friend, Raymond. He asked me to be his "wife" for the same reason that he took me to the Aerosmith/Skid Row concert...<BR/>Because he was gay, and he knew I wouldn't out him. <BR/><BR/>That was a fun year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-32112972618177067482009-02-13T18:35:00.000-08:002009-02-13T18:35:00.000-08:00Perhaps I'm just old. When I was in High School, ...Perhaps I'm just old. When I was in High School, marriage was taught.<BR/><BR/>Us guys got "marriage" in Health class (aka sex ed class). As in, "You would be smart to wait on sex until you're married." and "Here, carry this egg around for a week."<BR/><BR/>bleh.<BR/><BR/>Girls (and the guys who were smart enough to choose it for an elective) also heard about marriage in Home Economics class.<BR/><BR/>And as Washi said, we were always hearing about some teacher or another getting married.<BR/><BR/>But yea, I don't think it's an issue about marriage so much as an issue of sex education. Young, hormone loaded kids are going to want to know things that they are too uncomfortable to ask, and may be blocked from asking online. <BR/><BR/>The best question I've heard (second or third hand, admittedly) is, "I know a condom works there, but does it work THERE too?"<BR/><BR/>You probably want to answer that sort of question - telling the kid to ignore it and wait for marriage is a good way to encourage her or him to experiment on their own.Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-87603294470625704732009-02-13T17:57:00.000-08:002009-02-13T17:57:00.000-08:00To Washi's point Marriage is not taught in school....To Washi's point Marriage is not taught in school. The teachers Struggle to teach the basic skills required for exams let alone teach anything regarding marriage. This whole question was a simple and effective ploy to get parents to Vote yes on Prop 8. It worked too. I had several liberal Christians say to me me that they would vote yes because otherwise their children would be taught something that they don't agree with. Even the Prop 8 signs played on the family image. <BR/> As for the rest of Mark's answers, I agree!Sempaidavidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08760410202543589697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-51112827103040758742009-02-12T20:45:00.000-08:002009-02-12T20:45:00.000-08:00I just had to say, in relation to the "Should chil...I just had to say, in relation to the "Should children in public schools be taught homosexuality is normal, acceptable, and equal to the traditional marriage of a man and a woman?" question: I was <I>never</I>, in all my years of public schooling, taught a thing about marriage of any sort. I learned things about marriage from my own family and my friend's families and my church. Some of my teachers told us where s/he had been married, or talked about the proposal (the student teacher for one of my choir classes had been proposed to the week before starting work), but we were never formally taught "This is marriage." I'm wondering, how widespread is this "teaching children about marriage in schools" thing that it is an actual concern for <I>anyone</I>?<BR/><BR/>Other than that I fully agree with you.Chel Maxfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14302566379319312916noreply@blogger.com