tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post8767905142382664087..comments2023-08-08T04:19:26.974-07:00Comments on THE CALLADUS BLOG: PossummommaCalladushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-3805119639570281112008-12-03T22:42:00.000-08:002008-12-03T22:42:00.000-08:00Possummmomma, pennmommy, chrissyl . . . . can anyo...Possummmomma, pennmommy, chrissyl . . . . can anyone answer those questions.kirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144530757888660587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-41851092294027903322008-10-26T19:36:00.000-07:002008-10-26T19:36:00.000-07:00Calladus,Thanks for giving us an update on the rea...Calladus,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for giving us an update on the reason Pmomma's blog went dark. I like others had just found her blog only a month or two before it disappeared, so it is truly sad that she had to close it for such reasons.<BR/><BR/>Please give her my best as a fellow atheist and wellwisher!Girl Technologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267848118739937408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-81055809233607280962008-10-20T03:56:00.000-07:002008-10-20T03:56:00.000-07:00Hey there,One huge problem with the internet is th...Hey there,<BR/><BR/>One huge problem with the internet is that you can't use your senses when you meet a new person.<BR/><BR/>How many times have we all met people in person that did not seem as they appeared and some sixth sense warned us away?<BR/><BR/>I think this whole situation hints at another problem. The universality of wanting to belong and wanting something to believe in.<BR/><BR/>I think predatory people take advantage of these human traits.<BR/><BR/>But, you know for me, I am a softie and I can get emotionally attached very easily. I think I said earlier when I found out about this I gasped out loud and woke my dog up. So, I was shocked.<BR/><BR/>But, after thinking about it for awhile I could only blame myself. The only thing I have control over is what I do. I chose to get emotionally invested in a member in a online community.<BR/><BR/>She never asked me for a commitment, ya know? lol....<BR/><BR/>Don't we tell our kids to watch out who they talk to on the internet, and when we fall victim ourselves its easier to blame than to point the fingers to ourselves.<BR/><BR/>I understand where you are coming from and much respect to you.<BR/><BR/>For me, I have come out of this a stronger and wiser person because of it. I have been way too free with my emotions on the net.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the info on how to log on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-11139409736384384342008-10-19T22:10:00.000-07:002008-10-19T22:10:00.000-07:00McQuaidgirl,First, let me help you out with the na...McQuaidgirl,<BR/><BR/>First, let me help you out with the name. Although I like the blogger / gmail / RealID identification, the biggest problem I have is telling the difference between multiple "anonymous". When you leave a comment, there will be a place where you can select the choice "Name/URL". Choose that choice and put in your name. You can leave the URL blank if you wish. That will be enough to keep the different anonymous people straight.<BR/><BR/>Next, I would have to disagree that no one was hurt by Pennmommy's actions. People invested empathy and sympathy into Pennmommy's plight, and that was betrayed. Of course people are angry over that betrayed trust. It is a basic evolutionary response called "<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat" REL="nofollow">tit for tat</A>". The Golden Rule, chivalry, courteous behavior, manners, all have been invented based upon reasonable actions to prevent fighting - which too often would lead to war. This is necessary because hurt feelings invite retaliation.<BR/><BR/>It takes an effort to rise above your own ego, and even the most selfless person lets it get the best of them from time to time.<BR/><BR/>And lastly, Pennmommy wasn't a stranger - she was a member of an online community, many of whom respected her. The Internet is such a new thing, evolutionarily speaking, that no one has yet developed a way to implement our cultural behavior. It's getting better, but we have a way to go before I can read subtle clues on which to base my opinion of a person's character. And even then, human communities have always been vulnerable to betrayal.Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-62744724166456097972008-10-19T21:27:00.000-07:002008-10-19T21:27:00.000-07:00Hey there,I apologize about not leaving my name be...Hey there,<BR/><BR/>I apologize about not leaving my name before. I was not sure I wanted to sign up for goggle. I have tried but apparently I have disabled the cookies on my computer and it won't let me. My name is McQuaidgirl and I live in SC.<BR/><BR/>So, just to reiterate. I am really disappointed in a site (GDNNOP) for saying one thing and then doing another.<BR/><BR/>To put someone's personal information on the web is just plain harassment. Regardless of what they believe to be their reason(s) for doing this it has made me really question why I even went to their site to begin with.<BR/><BR/>I believe if other posters were aware of what has been done they would lose a lot of followers.<BR/><BR/>Possummomma must be a really nice person to have so many people to back her up.<BR/><BR/><BR/>And, one more thing. I have really thought about this alot. I think this Pennmomma has done me a service. I mean really. Are you supposed to believe everything you read on the internet? Noone was hurt. Just ego and maybe some people who were invested way too much in a stranger.<BR/><BR/>I have a Masters in Counseling and Human Development so I have studied a lot of behavior in my studies.<BR/><BR/>This would be a great dissertation topic. Don't you think?<BR/><BR/>McQuaidGirl...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-52210729235312058332008-10-18T10:16:00.000-07:002008-10-18T10:16:00.000-07:00Anonymous,Thank you for your very kind words. How...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your very kind words. However, your anonymity weakens your message. Already most of those commenting here <A HREF="http://blogs.abcnews.com/health_insider/2008/10/death-and-decep.html" REL="nofollow">have been accused of sockpuppeting</A>. Your anonymous comment will be automatically discounted by followers of the Gosselin fan club.<BR/><BR/>I've allowed anonymous comments in this thread (except for one that was mean just for the sake of being mean). However, I won't allow any more anonymous comments here. From now on, please <A HREF="http://calladus.blogspot.com/2007/05/comment-moderation-policy.html" REL="nofollow">follow my comment moderation policy</A>.<BR/><BR/>And I realize that doing this won't end the charges of sockpuppetry from the fan club supporters. I think that even those with a Google ID or <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID" REL="nofollow">OpenID</A> would still be accused of sockpuppetry. Ah well - so be it.Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-73317738377379275622008-10-18T09:56:00.000-07:002008-10-18T09:56:00.000-07:00Hey there,Well, it just goes to show that there is...Hey there,<BR/><BR/>Well, it just goes to show that there is two sides to every story.<BR/><BR/>Well, I have learned a huge lesson from all of this for sure.<BR/><BR/>First, I have way too much time on my hands.lol<BR/><BR/>Seriously, about a month ago I was bored and I went to the Gosselinsneedourpity website. And, I never posted.. Just read. even read Pennmommy site.<BR/><BR/>It was a very, very mean site. So, I started to branch out and i went to the Goseelinsdonotneedourpity website. It seemed a little less biased and fair.<BR/><BR/>Last week, I went to ths site and read about the PennMommy drama. And, i thought, Wow.... I had actually felt bad for this woman and her son dying. It actually took my breath away when i read the post that her son had died.<BR/><BR/>Jump to tonight and I can thank my insomnia for this one... lol....<BR/><BR/>On another atheist blog that is taking up for Possum Mama someone from the GDNNOP posts wanting him to explain certain things... They post Ip addresses and stuff like that.<BR/><BR/>Where they go to far in my opinion and has really pissed me off is posting personal information about possummama.<BR/><BR/>In the end, I agree with you and what you say about cults. I have studied cults myself. And, I think you are right on point.<BR/><BR/>In the very least, Possummana could probably win a harrasment lawsuit against some posters.<BR/><BR/>I also like what you say when you say that they have to prove that possummama is pennmommy and not the other way around.<BR/><BR/>So, I leave your site a changed person. I will no longer visit those Gosselin sites.<BR/><BR/>I am just disappointed in people these days. Sigh...<BR/><BR/>Thank you for letting me post here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-55361873876933994682008-10-16T14:12:00.000-07:002008-10-16T14:12:00.000-07:00Thanks for the update. I read Possummomma's blog ...Thanks for the update. I read Possummomma's blog through the feed and was just thinking about her today because I noticed the blog hadn't been updated recently. I am so sorry to hear of her troubles. Nobody deserves that. I wish the best for P-momma and her familyStacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14854305913216417119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-12438771078391812872008-10-16T08:38:00.000-07:002008-10-16T08:38:00.000-07:00Sheri,I still haven't received an email from you. ...Sheri,<BR/><BR/>I still haven't received an email from you. Maybe you just forgot? <BR/><BR/>I'll wait a bit more.Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-4296179940815386842008-10-16T06:22:00.000-07:002008-10-16T06:22:00.000-07:00Calladus, thanks for the enlightenment; I found ...Calladus, thanks for the enlightenment; I found out about your post via Pharyngula.<BR/><BR/>I've been lurking at P-Momma's blog since first reading about her at Pharyngula and enjoy her writing; I was saddened to see yet another intelligent, articulate, rational person silenced by the likes of the people who've made her life miserable. <BR/><BR/>I hope she'll be able to come back to blogging; her voice of reason is especially needed in times like these.karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17432526245731334565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-62416633201073332312008-10-15T18:10:00.000-07:002008-10-15T18:10:00.000-07:00Aw crap. I'd wondered what happened, and like man...Aw crap. I'd wondered what happened, and like many others I too feared the worst.<BR/><BR/>I'm glad she and her family are ok. But GEEZ I'm mad that P-Momma was finally harrassed off the net. I HATE fanatics, of any sort.<BR/><BR/>It's a shame that if someone exists that disproves a fanatic's beliefs (in this case, a healthy happy well-adjusted children and family in an Atheist family), rather than examine those beliefs, the person or persons in question simply MUST be destroyed.<BR/><BR/>Or, as in the case of the rabid fan-cultists, if anyone DARES to question the object of their worship, the same destruction must also happen.<BR/><BR/>Please pass along my best wishes to P-Momma, too.AmberKatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18288659650941053065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-36474617904546616372008-10-15T10:14:00.000-07:002008-10-15T10:14:00.000-07:00I'm so sorry all that happened. I love Atheis...I'm so sorry all that happened. I love Atheist in a mini van. I really looked up to her, enjoyed reading her thoughts & seeing her children grow up so wonderfully. Reading her blog made it easier on me raising my 2 daughters as Atheist. I'm really bummed for her. <BR/><BR/>I always thought it was crazy how much bad attention she got. I guess her well written posts scared the xtians!Ginnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09928304350897366869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-62146168830990793992008-10-15T08:26:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:26:00.000-07:00Holy Crap! P-Momma is Bart Sibrel!Holy Crap! P-Momma is Bart Sibrel!Berlzebubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12781519370029903495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-68049305877863051672008-10-15T08:12:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:12:00.000-07:00ROFLMAO! Thanks for injecting some much needed hum...ROFLMAO! Thanks for injecting some much needed humor, Agent X!<BR/><BR/>Of course, I thought that P-Momma was the front for a Vatican spy, and their goal was to infiltrate and discredit the atheist movement.<BR/><BR/>Or was it aliens?<BR/><BR/>(Sorry if this came through twice, by browser hiccuped!)Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02818787299721905729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-56395994033480708662008-10-15T07:55:00.000-07:002008-10-15T07:55:00.000-07:00Wow. I had no idea! Thank you for this important...Wow. I had no idea! Thank you for this important and obviously factual information Agent X! <BR/><BR/>Your unsupported assertion is obviously true, and not just something made up by some anonymous Internet troll for his or her own grins and giggles.<BR/><BR/>Well, that's it everyone. This incident has been exposed! I should have guessed it had something to do with the NASA cover-up, it was so obvious!Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-60131720779679393062008-10-15T07:41:00.000-07:002008-10-15T07:41:00.000-07:00I know this possummomma person. She's not who she...I know this possummomma person. She's not who she says she is. Actually, she's a dude!<BR/><BR/>His name is Alex and he's 70 years old and he used to work for NASA. He worked to fake the Apollo Moon landings! He helped build the stage and the backdrop for the fake astronauts!<BR/><BR/>I was just having lunch with him yesterday, and he was telling me about his possummomma / pennmommy hoax and how they are all faked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-41802377059651197642008-10-15T05:21:00.000-07:002008-10-15T05:21:00.000-07:00@ Sheri from Lancaster:HiHowdy.I am Sherri from La...<B>@ Sheri from Lancaster</B>:<BR/><I>Hi</I><BR/>Howdy.<BR/><BR/><I>I am Sherri from Lancaster, CA. <BR/>I know possummomma personally and she shared with me some of the penn mommy story.</I><BR/>Oh do tell?<BR/><I>She was just doing it to pass the time and it got out of hand.</I><BR/>And what proof do you have of this, other than hearsay? Calladus and I have been hearing the complete opposite.<BR/><I>I know she regrets it but at this point she doesn't know how to get out of this situation graciously.</I><BR/>This is just hearsay on my part, but I'm thinking the same thing about you. You could be from one of those other blogs, and trying to get Calladus and I to doubt ourselves and her.<BR/><I>She has done this before and been kicked off of some boards...</I><BR/>Do you have the links to those boards, or is this just hearsay also?<BR/><I>but this is the first time she really got caught.</I><BR/>If she's been kicked off of other boards, this is not the first time she got caught, "really" or otherwise. Like I said, show me the linkage.<BR/><I>Maybe this will put an end to her trolling and she will stick to just writing the possummomma blog.</I><BR/>You are criticizing someone for trolling? Now, there's irony.<BR/><I>I hope so because I enjoy reading it.</I><BR/>Damn Google Cache! I'd really like to test this statement, because I'm smelling a concern troll.Berlzebubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12781519370029903495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-7448720710251428562008-10-14T18:01:00.000-07:002008-10-14T18:01:00.000-07:00Question for you Sheri...Did you post your comment...Question for you Sheri...<BR/><BR/>Did you post your comment from Lancaster? Because according to my log file, no one within a 60 mile radius to Lancaster visited my blog during your post, or for several hours before your post.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I'm not doing the log file correctly. Just send me an email and we'll talk. kthxbai!Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-49635590020903827452008-10-14T15:50:00.000-07:002008-10-14T15:50:00.000-07:00Hi Sheri,Excuse me for not believing you immediate...Hi Sheri,<BR/><BR/>Excuse me for not believing you immediately. You've posted something that I'm not able to verify. And frankly, seeing all the high school stuff that goes on in the world of the Jon & Kate fan clubs, you'll have to offer proof that you know Possummomma before I believe anything.<BR/><BR/>You could start by sending me her phone number. Click my info at the top of the blog and email me.Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-21328480256980212502008-10-14T15:44:00.000-07:002008-10-14T15:44:00.000-07:00Hi I am Sherri from Lancaster, CA. I know possum...Hi <BR/><BR/>I am Sherri from Lancaster, CA. <BR/>I know possummomma personally and she shared with me some of the penn mommy story. She was just doing it to pass the time and it got out of hand. I know she regrets it but at this point she doesn't know how to get out of this situation graciously. She has done this before and been kicked off of some boards but this is the first time she really got caught. Maybe this will put an end to her trolling and she will stick to just writing the possummomma blog. I hope so because I enjoy reading it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-66809555538924620452008-10-14T11:21:00.000-07:002008-10-14T11:21:00.000-07:00How can people become obsessed with J&K+8? Tha...How can people become obsessed with J&K+8? That show is so terribly boring and Kate seems to me to be very unpleasant to be around. What those despicable miscreants have done to Possummomma is outright criminal. P-momma was a beacon of light for the atheist community online.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-16518071834853145392008-10-14T08:37:00.000-07:002008-10-14T08:37:00.000-07:00I forgot to add, Leslie... I've been reading the "...I forgot to add, Leslie... I've been reading the "<A HREF="http://blog.psychic-wisdom.net/" REL="nofollow">Musings from the Moon</A>" blog. From the little I've seen, this person is fair, and is familiar with critical thinking. I'll probably be reading more of that blog in the future, although I don't know how long it will hold my attention.Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-17853432596050327562008-10-14T08:25:00.000-07:002008-10-14T08:25:00.000-07:00Leslie,Thank you for writing. Allow me to address...Leslie,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for writing. Allow me to address the points you've made.<BR/><BR/>First - I'm an atheist. That merely means that I'm a not a believer in a God or gods. That does not mean that I attack Christians because they are Christian. I do my best to not confuse a person's beliefs with the person. I do not mind attacking a poorly formed idea or philosophy, but I try to save personal attacks for those people whom I believe to be truly evil, who use their position of authority to attack or reverse human rights.<BR/><BR/>In other words, just because we don't agree on the subject of religion doesn't mean I think you, or any Christian, is automatically a bad person. I enjoy talking to Christians - which is a good thing because most of the United States is Christian! I hope you will feel welcome, as would any Christian, in my blog. All I ask any Christian here is that if they ask me hard questions, they must be willing to answer the same.<BR/><BR/>Second, thank you for Penn-mommy's last name. I didn't know it. I've talked to Possummomma and I know Penn-mommy's situation. Although I believe that Penn-mommy has and is doing some things that are unethical, I will not participate in outing her. We Atheists are sensitive about our privacy, and we tend to extend privacy to others.<BR/><BR/>Third, I do not think that Guinevere is stupid enough to believe that I am Possummomma. I, unlike the Possum family, am out in the local community. I am the <A HREF="http://www.cvaas.org/" REL="nofollow">president of a growing Atheist organization</A> (CVAAS) in the California San Joaquin Valley. The <A HREF="http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/849524.html" REL="nofollow">local newspaper just ran a feature on our organization</A>. If you call the CVAAS phone number you will reach me. It is simple to find this out from my blog for anyone who is interested in doing so.<BR/><BR/>The Atheist community already knows that the GDNNOP blog censors those people who post to it in Possummomma's defense. I think that most of what the GDNNOP fan club writes is pure propoganda - written only to prop up their authority in the Jon and Kate fan club community. <BR/><BR/>As part of my journey from Christian to Atheist, I spent several years reading everything I could get my hands on about the subject of cults. The leaders of the GDNNOP fan club exhibit many traits of cult leaders. Shunning is a huge red flag, as is the controlling of information and the creation of a malliable "Truth". <BR/><BR/>You say that Penn-mommy has lied about some things. I don't really care. Penn-mommy's life isn't my concern. <BR/><BR/>Yes, I agree it would solve things once and for all if Penn-mommy put in some sort of appearance with Possummomma - but since when is the standard in our country, "Guilty until proven innocent"? The GDNNOP keeps talking about evidence, but I've seen only speculation.<BR/><BR/>No, P-momma hasn't scammed me. I've met her and her family and they are nice people. Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-28002405221693453412008-10-14T07:49:00.000-07:002008-10-14T07:49:00.000-07:00How to start this is weird for me. I felt like I c...How to start this is weird for me. I felt like I couldn't post here because I am a Christian. I hope it is being okay to add my comment. My GDDNP habit was embarrassing cuz I spent hours there. I don't like pennmommy but I know she is a real person. I invited her to lunch the day before Jason died. She called me from a cell phone in Pennsylvania's area code. She let me know she was up to meeting. I ran her husbands name on google with that phone number that belongs to his business. The people at GDNNP wouldn't post with no reason. I got told they called to be hung up on which they think means pennmommy was fake then they blamed me of making up part of the conspiracy of bloggers who made up pennmommy. Am I confusing you? Look at the blog with bohemian moon you'll see what's going on. They blamed her of being in it to be deceiving of all this. I know each of them have identities they don't talk about. They sent a support email to possummommas blog to get the explaining email she sent. Guinevere is the worst of them all in lies. The mods of the site erased near 200 comments who broke the theory they had. When I asked how come to a friend moderator she said Guinevere said she wants to close possummommas scamming. Can you tell me if she scammed you? They say you are her. Berlie is her with Martin Wagner or you are all helping her bad mouth Jon and Kate Gosselin.<BR/>They don't fool us with the saying of not talking about possummomma and they are calling her oppossum to get over google rules. I prayed to heavenly father for pennmommy. If it's lies praying doesn't hurt me. This makes me say they are over involving in this. No proof that pennmommy asked for money like possummomma that I can't agree with which is why I want to know if she scammed you. Pennmommy's last name is <I>[redacted - C]</I>. She lied about living in Wyoming since 2004. You have enabled moderation if you don't want her name I know. I don't know why your friend won't be out with it to save this drama. All she has to do is give that what they want. <I>[redacted - C]</I> was the name from the cell phone call displays. The moderators got told that by me then other regulars. I hope your friend gets better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-42085816654650342342008-10-14T01:13:00.000-07:002008-10-14T01:13:00.000-07:00I hope someone archives her blog, because there is...<I> I hope someone archives her blog, because there is a lot of good stuff in it!</I><BR/><BR/>If the reason she stopped blogging was to avoid harassment from the lunatics, then I hope her site DOESN'T get mirrored, or it would defeat the point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com