tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post112481294719236753..comments2023-08-08T04:19:26.974-07:00Comments on THE CALLADUS BLOG: Why Homeopathic Medicine does NOT work.Calladushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-21726597187585017542009-11-20T21:30:37.766-08:002009-11-20T21:30:37.766-08:00gr8 post calladus. i agree with you 100%. the only...gr8 post calladus. i agree with you 100%. the only explanation as to how homeopathic medicines work is placebo. infact in india where such alternative therapies are quite popular homeopaths actually give people sugar pills which as far as i know containing no medicinal substance and the same pill is used to treat all diseases.mshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06338900897042912869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-57395984935847570332009-09-20T23:09:08.834-07:002009-09-20T23:09:08.834-07:00The main way to test placebos is to try them. Man...The main way to test placebos is to try them. Many people have had great success with placebos.<br /><br />Paul, the plural of "anecdote" is not "data". When placed in a double-blind scientific test, no homeopathic remedy does any better than a placebo.<br /><br />As for your assertion that "side effects of conventional medical treatment" is a leading cause of death in America, I call bullshit. You have no evidence that this is true. From my check of leading causes of death, most are due to disease or accident.<br /><br />Perhaps you are one of the 47.5% of those people who make up 'facts' and statistics to suit themselves?Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-20932837875014542312009-09-20T21:13:59.162-07:002009-09-20T21:13:59.162-07:00The main way to test homeopathy is to try it. I...The main way to test homeopathy is to try it. I've personally had enough success with it to say that there's something to it, despite the difficulty of explaining it in terms of current scientific knowledge. <br /><br />Consider how much of conventional medicine is distorted by the promotional money spent by drug companies, and how many drugs get pulled from the market after they've killed a lot of people. Did you know that one of the leading causes of death in the USA is by the side effects of conventional medical treatment? Many people who were reasonably healthy and could normally be expected to live many more years have been killed by side effects, medical errors, etc.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04473326737299320884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-86199618178485052932009-04-12T22:55:00.000-07:002009-04-12T22:55:00.000-07:00I recently came accross your blog and have been re...I recently came accross your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I dont know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.<BR/><BR/><BR/> Miriamgrenehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06725051195971717278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-73535955598834629352008-10-16T12:19:00.000-07:002008-10-16T12:19:00.000-07:00I wish I'd knwn about this journal entry before I ...I wish I'd knwn about this journal entry before I wrote my own Anti-Homeopathy entry: <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://justawhisperinthewind.blogspot.com/2008/07/homeopathy-essay.html" REL="nofollow">Homeopathy: An Essay</A> <BR/><BR/>My own is very layman - what with me being an artist, not an academic. <BR/><BR/>Like you though, I've been getting recent replies to it - despite it's being written in July! <BR/><BR/>Ah well - I enjoyed your article ^^Whisperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17540825742359825695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-32098753149960003482008-10-14T21:52:00.000-07:002008-10-14T21:52:00.000-07:00I noticed you use the following quotes at the top ...I noticed you use the following quotes at the top of this blog:<BR/><BR/>--"The suppression of uncomfortable ideas may be common in religion or in<BR/>politics, but it is not the path to knowledge, and there's no place<BR/>for it in the endeavor of science."<BR/>-- Carl Sagan<BR/>--<BR/><BR/>Be careful. This does not mention the <I>caveat emptor</I>: For an uncomfortable idea to be actually considered in *science*, you're going to need EVIDENCE, and lots of it if your claim is extraordinary. Which is why Homeopathy, etc. are not accepted: all attempts to scientifically evidence them have failed (turned up negative).<BR/><BR/>Failing to mention this important <I>caveat emptor</I>, which is key to the working of science, may lead to people getting the idea these things should be accepted by science and their rejection to be misperceived as dogmatism and hypocrisy.<BR/><BR/><BR/>---<BR/><BR/>"And just how good is water's memory? The Homeopathic community does not know! They can't know if water will remember impurities that it associated with decades, or millennia ago! All water on Earth has gone through a biological cycle over and over again for millions and millions of years! What is this water able to remember? Just how therapeutic is Trilobite piss? Would we be wary of waste from Whale, Walrus, Worms or Wart Hogs?"<BR/><BR/>Exactly. This was my main beef with homeopathy, plus the fact that any controlled experiment always seems to show it either does not work or is a placebo effect.mike3https://www.blogger.com/profile/15516648613972933636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-3311538695451917982007-09-11T14:06:00.000-07:002007-09-11T14:06:00.000-07:00Udaya, I answered your comment here:Udaya, <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://calladus.blogspot.com/2007/09/udayas-daughter-lived-therefore.html" REL="nofollow">I answered your comment here: </A>Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-15232536286661538262007-09-09T17:02:00.000-07:002007-09-09T17:02:00.000-07:00hello calladus,I hope you know that in India there...hello calladus,<BR/><BR/>I hope you know that in India there is a nature based system of medicine called ayurveda which follows principles that look common to those of homeopathy. <BR/><BR/>I was a skeptic of both these systems, in fact I used to be so sarcastic about ayurveda's long treatment period, that I used to say that ayurveda makes the treatment schedule so long so that you can forget what your problem was in the first place. <BR/><BR/>I dislike the alcohol smelling homeo sugar pills and had a bad image of it too.<BR/><BR/>I stumbled into homeo when my daughter who had some kind of cold and fever that just would not go away. I did try all the new medicines that allopathy based doctors suggested for her. They did not work beyond a certain point.<BR/><BR/>Then my father-in-law, less a skeptic than I was took her to a homeopathic doctor, who prescribed her a course of medicines, slightly tweaking it, or so he said, until he got it right. <BR/><BR/>I am sorry to tell you that it did work. In fact we started to keep it with us and give it to her at the first symptoms of cold. It would simply go away.<BR/><BR/>It so happened that once we did not have such medicines with us and the girl ran a high fever and cold. <BR/><BR/>The allopaths could do little, so I had to go back to the homeopath again. The problem got resolved and as she grew older the problem almost disappeared. She is seven years old now.<BR/><BR/>I did try some other medicines in homeopathy; like medicines for gastritis and small problems like that and found that many a time they work better than antacids and equivalent allopathy medicines.<BR/><BR/>I have seen these ans similar arguments against homeopathy earlier in science mags and blogs and always wondered about how these medicines worked. <BR/><BR/>I finally got it down to the placebo effect. As you say the placebo effect is extremely powerful.<BR/><BR/>The only problem was that my daughter when she started on homeopathic medicines was little more than a year old. I am not sure if placebo effects work on tiny infants like that.<BR/><BR/>If they really do then why did the same effect not work when other allopathic medicines were given?<BR/><BR/>Can you please put your thinkig cap on Or do you want to refer to some FDA literature. <BR/><BR/>Have you ever tried homeopathic medicines for yourself? Have you talked to people who have used such medicines? <BR/><BR/>Are you aware that animals are also treated with such medicines? Is there literature that justifies not using them on animals and children?<BR/><BR/>How do you know what is the medicinal effect of Trilobite piss, Whale, Walrus, Worms or Wart Hogs without testing them yourself or having them tested? <BR/><BR/>Do you know that Western scientists are trawling the forests of India and Latin America and their folklore for medicines from sources more exotic than these?<BR/><BR/>Western medicines with their double blind trials have I believe created as many and more seriosu problems for humanity then other medicines. Can I remind you of thalidomide. You must be aware of many others. <BR/><BR/>I am not sure as to what you are, a doctor or just another blogger who consumes and propagates memes. Please allow yourself to be unstupid for some time.<BR/><BR/>Science is what we know. Not opinions on what we do not know. Please keep that in mind. <BR/><BR/>What you have done is to interpret based on what you know. Who do you think knows homeopathy better, half witted guys like you or others who have benefited from such quack based sciences?<BR/><BR/>So much of Indian medicine and Chinese medicine was dismissed as quackery in the fifties and sixties, yet plane loads of your people arrive in India today for Panchkarma and similar things.<BR/><BR/>Do you know that sometimes they are fed cows urine? Thinking about it is enough to give you a placebo.<BR/><BR/>This is a call for less stupidity and more consideration of the evidence. Such evidence need not always arrive in double blind trials. <BR/><BR/>I dont think that homeo or any eastern system claims that it will do well in a double blind or triple blind trial.<BR/><BR/>They have been curing people based on what is known. What Western Science can do is not to trash them but to find if something in them works. <BR/><BR/>Like say for Rauwolfia, the insanity herb, which was used by Western medicine earlier to combat hypertension...<BR/><BR/>Stick to what you know, and do not spread opinions until you have tested them yourself.<BR/><BR/>regards,<BR/><BR/>Udaya<BR/><BR/>PS: I would like to watch this response on your blog and for any comments that follow. <BR/><BR/>You can always write to me at my mail id at udayapg@rediffmail.com. take your time...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-85811757106479036172007-07-20T07:00:00.000-07:002007-07-20T07:00:00.000-07:00I see. So it doesn't bother you that scientists w...I see. So it doesn't bother you that scientists who use the scientific method to test Homeopathic treatments have all, without fail, shown that Homeopathy doesn't work?<BR/><BR/>The only "scientists" who have shown that Homeopathy works are those who start with the <I>presupposition</I> that Homeopathic treatments work.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Devendra, according to your website you got your "doctorate" in Homeopathy - a discipline that is based upon the rules of supernatural magic instead of natural science. To me, this means that you are little better qualified than a witch doctor or shaman.<BR/><BR/>You are either deluded and willfully ignorant about the methods of science, or you are unscrupulously willing to defraud and endanger those who place their trust in you. In either case, you are a danger to others.<BR/><BR/>My only wish for you, Mr. Devendra, is that you see the error of your ways before advising a patient to do something stupid - like asking them to replace maintenance drugs like clonidine, warfarin, and carvedilol; with Homeopathic treatments of imperfectly purified water.<BR/><BR/>I would hate to think that money matters more to you than someone else's life.Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-83748736031307558012007-07-19T23:40:00.000-07:002007-07-19T23:40:00.000-07:00Your comment is not relevent to me writing if home...Your comment is not relevent to me writing if homeopathy dont work.it is not reflection tht I am going to change the system.you try to experiment with the Homeopathic medicine without prejudiction and come to conclude wether is working or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-6998981543008717222007-07-16T07:32:00.000-07:002007-07-16T07:32:00.000-07:00Well, then Mr. Devendra, let me be the first to co...Well, then Mr. Devendra, let me be the first to congratulate you on recognizing your error. Not many believers in pseudoscience are so able to replace their belief system with natural laws.<BR/><BR/>So what will be your new profession? Personally, I recommend carpentry. Very satisfying to make things with your hands.Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-35238867523045666442007-07-16T02:37:00.000-07:002007-07-16T02:37:00.000-07:00hellow sir thanks for saying I will be aligable fo...hellow sir thanks for saying I will be aligable for Noble praize.If it is the thing that Homeoapthy does not work I will giveup my doctorate MD(Homeopathy).I will withdraw my regestration as homeopath and move away from the proffession.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-87287477778951324112007-06-22T23:53:00.000-07:002007-06-22T23:53:00.000-07:00Well, Doctor, first let me congratulate you on rec...Well, Doctor, first let me congratulate you on receiving your doctorate at such an <I>early</I> age. You're only 28? Well done.<BR/><BR/>Second, I think your multiple blogs are more than a little confusing.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I almost refused your post - you are very close to violating rule 6 of my comment moderation policy. However, the content of your blogs is entertaining.<BR/><BR/>As for disproving Homeopathy, that's not up to me. <A HREF="http://calladus.blogspot.com/2006/05/practical-atheist.html" REL="nofollow">The Burden of Proof is always on the claimant.</A> If you can prove that Homeopathy works, I'll bet you'll be a shoe-in for the Nobel Prize. <BR/><BR/>Good luck on that!Calladushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620879847877868166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-6171853962048425112007-06-22T23:42:00.000-07:002007-06-22T23:42:00.000-07:00I have gone through your blog. Its interesting but...I have gone through your blog. Its interesting but I am in search of a method how I can disprove Homeopathy. Please see this <A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/profile/12808061263188852729" REL="nofollow">www.homeopathynotaplacebothepathy.blogspot.com</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-33730168880700439902007-01-16T11:22:00.000-08:002007-01-16T11:22:00.000-08:00Anon, you need to take a couple of science classes...Anon, you need to take a couple of science classes. And you need to re-read my article because I'm not advocating Homeopathy - I'm calling it the biggest load of psychobabble bullshit that was ever invented to part sick people from their cash while giving nothing in return.<br /><br />And the web site you quote is also batshit insane pseudoscience. From the quoted article:<br /><br /><i>At a dilution of 1/10^24 corresponding to potencies of 12c or 24x, AvogardoLimit has been reached, beyond which there are theoretically no molecules of original substances left in the preparation. However it is clinically and experimentally demonstrable that such potencies are still pharmacologically active and preserve the therapeutic potentials of the original substance. The method of potentisation causes the pharmaceutical message of the original drug to be impressed on the molecules of the diluent. They may involve a polymerization or an electromagnetic effect.</i><br /><br />First, the author admits that there are no original molecules of the original substance left in the medicine, and then he goes on to state that some sort of "message" is impressed on the molecules of the liquid in some pseudoscientific way. <br /><br />Let me quote from my original article above: <br /><i>And just how good is water's memory? The Homeopathic community does not know! They can't know if water will remember impurities that it associated with decades, or millennia ago! All water on Earth has gone through a biological cycle over and over again for millions and millions of years! What is this water able to remember? Just how therapeutic is Trilobite piss? Would we be wary of waste from Whale, Walrus, Worms or Wart Hogs?</i><br /><br />And as for the author's claim that, <i>"... it is clinically and experimentally demonstrable that such potencies are still pharmacologically active and preserve the therapeutic potentials of the original substance."</i> This is a testable statement that the author has made. All he needs to do is show the proof, and the peer-review that was accomplished to validate that proof. <br /><br />Actually, I think this is Nobel Prize-worthy. Any Homeopathic "doctors" have a Nobel prize yet?<br /><br />I would be interested in seeing how many people have been diagnosed with malignant, aggressive cancer and have successfully beat that cancer using only homeopathic "drugs."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-67119948373955193132007-01-16T09:20:00.000-08:002007-01-16T09:20:00.000-08:00I want to share another excellent blog for them wh...I want to share another excellent blog for them who believe in Homeopathy.<br /><br />http://homeojunction.blogspot.com/<br /> <br />I think this post http://homeojunction.blogspot.com/2006/09/why-homeopath-potentised-their.html given in http://homeojunction.blogspot.com/ is very useful for the beginners who don’t know much regarding Homeopathy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5736821.post-16489491321497223402007-01-04T10:39:00.000-08:002007-01-04T10:39:00.000-08:00excellent!! a must read!!excellent!! a must read!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10952808577121597844noreply@blogger.com